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Michael

Posts: 1
Tue, 21 Mar 2017 17:23:36 MDT
Wayne's sites are rly ugly
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Elastico's Foot

Posts: 60
Mon, 20 Mar 2017 13:28:11 MDT
To Stitchthebest36:

Speaking of Experiments learning spirituality, I have actually had this idea that Chopsuey (621) takes up archery as a form of meditation.
I'm agnostic and have been trying to avoid having religion as a major factor in my stories, so perhaps it would be better if you were to write such a story.
Exactly. There's no harm in a female character requiring rescue so long as they are in a situation that's genuinely bigger than their own individual abilities. There lies the difference between good writing and stereotyping.
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Jowad

Posts: 100
Sun, 19 Mar 2017 19:49:23 MDT
To Stitchthebest36:

Thanks. by the way on tumblr you forgot about the Stitch theory video from early this month on that page.
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Stitchthebest36
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Posts: 721
Sun, 19 Mar 2017 19:43:37 MDT
To Jowad: I just updated the revival petition for you here https://www.change.org/p/the-walt-disney-company-reboot-of-lilo-stitch-the-series/u/19758992
I hope the update is to your liking.

To Elastico' Foot: Mahalo for understanding! Yokai are interesting as a cultural tibit but they definitely do not fit into a sci fi setting as actual characters. However I don't mind Stitch learning about spirituality be it Hawaiian Gods,or religions like Christianity or Hinduism etc. It would be really interesting to see the experiments get character development through exploring other earth cultures. I met somebody really cool the other day who was a hindu and I kinda thought it would be cute if one of the experiments suddenly decided to become a hindu in a fan fic! I may write that myself if one of you guys don't. :)
I agree and good way of wording it. I think Angel could have broken the glass and caught herself on part of a building or tree with a fancy acrobatic move.

To Starryblast9: sorry, I made a slight error on my last post. I meant it makes sense for Lilo to be somewhat immature as she is a kid but her writing feels inconsistent sometimes.
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Elastico's Foot

Posts: 60
Sun, 19 Mar 2017 13:49:54 MDT
No worries to either of you. I understand you all have responsibilities that must come first.

To StarryBlast9:

I really didn't care for the Yokai characters. Their presence reminded me more than anything else that I was watching a show clearly not made by somebody interested in continuing Stitch's story.

I actually once thought of this idea of the Men in Black trying to erase people's memories of the Experiments. Stitch would even grab and threaten Agents K and J when they tried to erase Lilo's memory of him.

I've always felt a better idea would be to choose a few Experiments and then develop them more as consistent supporting characters. All this constant elimination of the Experiments from the story makes one wonder what the point of their presence even is.

To Stitchthebest36:

I wouldn't say Lilo needing to be rescued is misogynistic. Let's compare Lilo being trapped in glass on a ship in the original film to Angel being trapped in glass on a ship in the anime. Lilo is an ordinary human, and a child at that. She can't possibly be strong enough to break the glass with her fists, and even if she could, she'd never survive that fall. Angel, however, can break the glass, and as we discussed before, it's very likely that she could survive the fall. In this situation, Lilo is genuinely helpless, so it's acceptable for her to need help. Angel, however, is fully capable of getting herself out of this situation, and still does nothing. That's where the misogyny comes in; having a female character who can take action but doesn't.
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Stitchthebest36
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Sun, 19 Mar 2017 12:31:03 MDT
To Starryblast9: I always thought the Japanese characters in "Stitch!" believed Stitch and his cousins were Yokai like Kijimunna so maybe Angel just tells people she's a yokai? Still I agree it doesn’t make much sense and would put Angel in danger.
In terms of Lilo, in some episodes like "Elastico" and "Snafu" Lilo seems written as very selfish in regards to family responsibilities where as in "Drowsy" she is the opposite where she almost focuses too much on the experiments to the point of exhaustion so her writing is not consistent. It makes sense Lilo would be selfish and somewhat immature because she is between the ages of 6 and 9 years old. However I just remembered something about “Snafu” as I typed this which is that Lilo believed that all the experiments that were captured by Gantu had been sent to Hamsterviel and were therefore too difficult to rescue. She comments "We don't know where she is" when talking about Angel.

To Elastico’s Foot: SO Sorry for my long absence as well. School is difficult and I’m trying to find an actor for a lead role in my own film. The 2 other people I had in mind couldn’t do the roles because they are in poor health. If you know anywhere I could find some actors quick let me know? Anyway...
Yes I agree. On the note of misogyny, do you think Lilo getting rescued and screaming for Stitch to help her is also misogynistic?? Just curious.

To Jowad: Hate to repetitive with the petition again but the reboot one is almost up to 25 signatures so I will do an update in between my work ASAP.
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StarryBlast9

Posts: 33
Sat, 18 Mar 2017 23:02:47 MDT
Really sorry for the long silence; I've been busy with school and making up tests for most of the whole week.

To Elastico's Foot:

That or else boring; besides Sasha and Yuna's grandmother, none of them really added much character-wise. (I could also add Kijimuuna, but it's mostly because Kijimuunas are the most famous yokai of the Okinawas...so more for cultural representation.)

I think people eventually COULD get used to the presence of experiments, but even so...IDK, I guess I just tend to think of the Sample episode with the "alien hunters" when it comes to this. I agree that it completely messed up Angel's development since she only came around every few episodes because she was traveling.

I've noticed it's an issue with almost all the experiments shown in the anime; they almost always just make a few appearances throughout the seasons and don't get much development or serve as obstacles to Yuna and Stitch. Third season (of course) makes it even more annoying and just has them deactivated and chucked into the back of Jumba's lab after every episode. They mostly make appearances as plot devices and not much else (Toons only being activated to help Yuna out with a school project for example.) I've heard that the experiments are deactivated for their supposed "protection" in season three, but I really don't buy it considering ones like Kixx, Witch, Heat, Plasmoid, etc. who can clearly defend themselves. So it just looks like lazy writing to me.

To Stitchthebest36:

Like I said with Elastico's Foot, I'm reminded of people like those two "alien hunters" in the Sample episode. I'm sure people could get used to the experiments given enough time, but still-there's some seriously weird and paranoid people out there (which is probably a big reason why the experiments are mostly hidden). If that's the case with Winfield, then that's very bizarre; what exactly about Lilo's character makes her look like a abandoner or a hypocrite? Ugh, that's probably true too, like the staff felt they didn't have to try to develop the experiments since they only had 65 episodes to work with. On Snafu though, at this point, it's a huge part of the reason I'm developing the fanfic I am right now; to me it was flat-out insulting with how it handled those experiments being abandoned. I get it's a kid's show, I get they only had 65 episodes, but either they do a decent job with handling a writing idea like leaving experiments behind or not do it at all.

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Elastico's Foot

Posts: 60
Sun, 12 Mar 2017 23:39:47 MDT
To StarryBlast9:

For a show that claims to be about friendship and kindness, the anime is surprisingly talented at creating some of the vilest supporting characters to ever disparage a screen.

I mean, I can buy that a society can be accepting of aliens' presence. What bothers me, personally, is the necessity for such a plot development. Why does Angel need to be a traveling singer? Why can't she just be in every episode? It simply seems nonsensical to me from a storytelling, character-developing wise.

To Stitchthebest36:

What I mean by "finding out" is Angel could be shown to just survive the fall. I think Stitch catching Angel in that episode is more evidence of the anime's misogynistic portrayal of Angel rather than of her ability or inability to survive high falls.

If Stitch and Lilo were to disagree, it should be on something with more weight. Here's an idea; suppose an Experiment, like 627, Leroy, or even Twang, simply wouldn't reform and continued to terrorize Lilo's loved ones, so Stitch reasons that the only way to stop the Experiment is to kill them. Lilo could argue that Stitch can't kill his cousin. This way, they disagree but they still keep sight of their love for one another; Stitch doesn't want anyone to threaten his family, and Lilo doesn't want him to reflect the actions of his former self.
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Stitchthebest36
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Sun, 12 Mar 2017 22:24:28 MDT
To Jowad: Of course I have seen "Origin of Stitch".It's on my "Lilo & Stitch 2: Stitch Has A Glitch" DVD. I thought it was really touching,especially when Stitch says "monster" and the ending when Jumba and Stitch hug.

To Elastico's Foot: It was a long time ago so I can't give you an exact quote but Pleakley said something along the lines of "You're making a huge mess!" or something general like that. I don't think many fans would want to see Angel get injured or die as a way of "finding out". However if I had written the episode I would have simply had Angel smash the glass,start falling and have Stitch see this and catch her mid air. I do not mind conflict between Lilo and Stitch. Arguments happen in families and friendships. But I agree that any argument Lilo and Stitch have would NOT end their deep friendship. What kind of message does Lilo and Stitch splitting send to kids? That friendships will break off completely due to petty things. Not a good message. I will comment on your story when I'm not working.

To Starryblast9: I despise Tigerlily! Awful. Yeah I always thought Angel being a singer would set off a fear of alien invasion but perhaps by the time period the anime occurs in people on earth are used to seeing the experiments? Just a random thought. I agree "Snafu" was lazy last moment writing. I had a problem with Lilo not realizing the danger she put the whole galaxy in, let alone the experiments themselves. I guess Jess Winfield who had a hand in the anime dub as well as writing "Snafu" sees Lilo as a person who abandons others which I do not like because it makes absolutely no sense given she lost her parents and feeds a fish every single week. Lilo is not an abandoner! It's possible they ignored the gold mine of character potential of the experiments because they knew from the beginning of production the series would end at only 65 episodes. Lazy.
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StarryBlast9

Posts: 33
Sun, 12 Mar 2017 20:18:38 MDT
To Elastico's Foot:

Don't even get me started on Tigerlily. Unneeded, horrific personality, no development, just an awful addition. Even die-hard fans will revile her and for good reason.

Correct me if I'm off, but I think they were captured for roughly two years and were freed when the experiment hunt was almost over. And that too-the concept of an experiment like Angel (or like Slushy, Heat, Hammerface, Thresher, Plasmoid, and 627) was actually really good and they would've made pretty decent antagonists, or even examples of experiments who rejected the Ohana message or who had criticism against it. But nope-throw them to the sidelines and just AVOID all that potential. Here's another issue with Angel being a famous singer; the experiments are supposed to be hidden and under government and GF protection. People WILL notice the weird pink singing creature and start asking questions about her (for space this would be better because everyone's already aware she's one of Jumba's experiments, but on Earth it would be really complicated for her to get a one true place like a famous singer without drawing attention.).

To add in to how Angel gets treated in the anime...I find her portrayal outright weird, because two of the other female experiments introduced in the anime, Witch and Stank, were actually very proactive, had their own, well fleshed out personalities, and not needing to be "saved" in any way (unless you want to count Witch needing to have her transmutations undone). (They're actually my favorite female experiments because of this BTW) Bonnie was also portrayed decently in the anime, along with Tickle-Tummy. Angel's portrayal...is IDK what to call it, a fluke? A mess? (Actually both I suppose.) It's pretty embarrassing either way.

To Stitchthebest36:

For some of my other favorites, Kixx (he was my first favorite; I thought he was cool), Hammerface (for his personality), Thresher and Plasmoid for their powers, and Hocker because of his ability and personality. On Snafu, I guess I just really disliked Lilo's attitude throughout the whole thing. For just one example, Lilo says to Nosy during his rant "I didn't just LET" regarding abandoning the experiments...right to the face of one of the very experiments she let Gantu take and send to Hamsterviel. Her running down the aisle of captured experiments and greeting them as how she did also rubbed me the wrong way. From my perspective, it's like she didn't understand the true danger she put those experiments in by abandoning them. Personally I don't think malnutrition's in Hamsterviel's interests (or muscle atrophy, which is why I'm having them be sent back a lot) but I do think that for the ones with the offensive abilities, they may have developed health issues or have been weakened (via Dupe's abilities or the constant transporting) or be torn between staying with Hamsterviel for revenge or breaking out. Personally I look at "Snafu" as an attempt at an excuse for Lilo and Stitch abandoning experiments. :/
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Jowad

Posts: 100
Sun, 12 Mar 2017 07:31:41 MDT
To Stitchthebest36:

It's okay now, Elastico's Foot and I have worked things out about that. By the way, have you ever seen the stitch short The Origins of Stitch?
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Elastico's Foot

Posts: 60
Sun, 12 Mar 2017 04:16:57 MDT
To StarryBlast9:

The third season also did a lot of very peculiar and sudden changes that are often foreboding in some shows. Not to mention the introduction of the absolutely wretched and detestable character known as Tiger Lily.

I think the problem here lies with the question; why do the Experiments need to be captured for so long at all? Why not have characters like Angel stick around and become major supporting roles? The anime did made a similar mistake by arbitrarily having Angel be a traveling singer. (I don't buy for a second that she wouldn't just stay with Stitch full-time, or at least convince him to come with her if becoming a singer is oh so vitally important to her story arc.) If a new Stitch series is ever made, the writers should embrace the potential of the Experiments as characters, and not find excuses to leave them on the sidelines.

To Stitchthebest36:

No worries. If you do ever find anything more to say, please consider leaving a review on the story itself. You don't need an account on the site to leave a review, and it allows people finding the story themselves to easily see the feedback of previous readers.

On the subject of not knowing if Angel could've survived the fall as Stitch did; that would've been a great opportunity to find out, wouldn't it? (Although I've written Angel as being equally invincible as Stitch, save for the latter's resistance to plasma.)
But yeah, Angel should be portrayed as strong and independent and loyal to her friends. The anime writers should be embarrassed by their portrayal of her.

Also, I will confess, that while I love Elastico the Experiment (and his username-inspiring feet), I have mixed feelings about his debut episode. I don't like to undermine creativity, but I strongly dislike any story concept that involves conflict between Lilo and Stitch after the events of the original film. Despite their young age, they've been through too much and too strongly value their connection to allow petty things to bring them apart. (Hence why the anime just doesn't work.)

Also, out of curiosity, do you know what Pleakley said in the Japanese dub?
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Stitchthebest36
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Sat, 11 Mar 2017 23:41:30 MST
To Jowad: I know you want to promote the petitions but I agree that you need to be careful not to be too overly forceful or repetitive in promoting. I'm trying to promote a new film I wrote so I can cast actors in it but I have to not over do it or people won't want to help with the film. Speaking of which, any ideas on how I can promote my film?? Anyway, I did see "Tangled:Before Ever After" and it was pretty good, not where I expected it to go as it appears to be taking place right before Rupenzel marries Eugene.

To Starryblast9: My favorite experiments…hmm…I would say Sample because I love Sample's almost chilled out design despite being loud as heck, Swapper because I love his design, Spooky because I love his powers,Sparky because I liked his personality, Angel because I think she's cute and sweet in L&S The Series.
My worst episode of Lilo & Stitch was "Elastico" because Lilo acted like a jerk. As for the Stitch! anime I also really disliked season 3 except for the Lilo episode and the finale with Dark End. Stitch! season 3 was just too formulaic for my taste like they didn't even bother to watch seasons 1 or 2 before producing season 3. The Lilo & Stitch episode "Snafu" didn't bother me at all when I first saw it but yes it is odd that Lilo waited that long and that only Nosy managed to escape. I have a fan theory that perhaps the experiments were not properly fed under Hamsterviel's care so maybe the experiments were weak and not thinking straight so even Angel did not think to smash the glass until motivated by Stitch. However I disagree that Lilo was not serious about the rescue because she did thoroughly plan it once she decided to do it.

To Elastico's Foot: I really like the story but can’t think of any further thoughts at the moment. I will let you know if I think of any later. I promise. I’m just very busy. In regards to the episode “Reuben 2.0” as a female myself I agree it was definitely not the best writing of a female character to say the least, but if Angel had smashed the glass it is possible she could have fallen to her death so that might be why she waited for one of the boys to rescue her. We do not know if she is indestructible like Stitch or not. It was the way Angel passively waited around before being captured by Gantu in the glass dome that bugged me. I like strong female leads. That’s why I liked that Yuna knows karate. I think the ankle bitting line is just a result of bad dubbing. I do not think Pleakley says that in the Japanese version at all judging from the bit of rough translation I got from a youtube commentator. Nothing more than a forced gag.
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StarryBlast9

Posts: 33
Fri, 10 Mar 2017 20:10:30 MST
To Elastico's Foot:

Yep; that was one of many recycled plots in season three. It's like they had NO ideas whatsoever after only a few episodes and just decided to reuse the episode plots with the experiments instead of yokai or whatever plot device or lead in they had for the original. Season three was done by a different company (Shin-Ei Animations) which is sub-par in comparison to Madhouse. It's kind of why season three's so weird and "cutesy" (I don't know what else to call it) in comparison to the first two. Even many fans aren't impressed with it. You'll get some who love the Lilo episode or some other random one, but most avoid it like the plague. I actually ended up a bit partial to it because of the experiments, but even I tend to stick with the first two seasons due to how each season three episode deactivates and throws them away into that vault in Jumba's lab at the end.

To make it even better, Nosy and Fibber were on the ship at the end of their episodes. Also-they most likely WOULD be spending most of their time in the ship because they're going to need to eat, drink, move around, etc. It's to the point where I'm working it into my own fic where Hamsterviel gets an idea of the duo's schedule and sends the experiments back when Lilo's in school and the later hours of the night. And that's another thing-plenty of those experiments have offensive abilities (Nosy's even said to be a brilliant escape artist) and then there's Hunkahunka and Amnesio, who could've easily used their powers on Gantu and broken out. WHY they somehow needed Lilo and Stitch to break them out is beyond me. Especially with how Angel was able to do so.
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Elastico's Foot

Posts: 60
Thu, 9 Mar 2017 00:12:28 MST
To StarryBlast9:

On "Swapper 2.0", didn't the anime do two body swap episodes? That's another thing I hate about the anime; lots of double-dipping into story concepts. As I recall, plots such as body swapping, dream invasion, Stitch returning to space, Angel cheating on Stitch, a troublesome shapeshifter, a karate competition, the abuse of Checkers' abilities, and Yuna's father appearing are all recycled at least once. Gotta love that discount storytelling.

Actually, you make a very sound point with "Snafu." Beyond the weird realization that Lilo and Stitch waited until that episode to liberate the captured Experiment (surely they were inside Gantu's ship at least one other time before them.), but the entire point of the episode is invalidated the moment Angel destroys the glass with her skull. (I can just imagine her hitting her head against the glass in frustration while imprisoned, and then suddenly cracking it open to her and the others' bittersweet shock.)

Also, now that I think about it, I think I indirectly made a reference to this plot flaw in the most recent chapter of "Stitch's Revolution", in which Elastico escapes Hamsterviel's base and arrives at the Pelekai house just as Stitch and his allies are about to go save him. (Although 621 surrendered to Hamsterviel while freeing Elastico, so their venture remains valid.)
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StarryBlast9

Posts: 33
Wed, 8 Mar 2017 23:52:36 MST
To Elastico's Foot:

My fave's Heat (from the later part of my username and the "9"). I loved how he wasn't at all like the other fire or energy based experiments; he wasn't hyper or bad tempered and seemed a lot more conservative with his powers. He seemed a lot less evil and more observant than most other six-series, and I liked the idea of a calm fire/energy character.

To add to "Reuben 2.0"...I think Angel was actually going to marry Reuben because of that dress. With "Experiment-a-Palooza" I think it should've stopped with Retro using his powers on Stitch (also not exactly sure how that works). And I agree with what you're saying about "Stitch Becomes Peter Pan", especially since they already established that magic exists in the anime's lore. It makes no sense as to why they'd modernize something like Neverland. Maybe a TRON or Treasure Planet themed place would've worked better than Neverland.

Here's a few of mine:

"Hamjock Vielvonster": For the plot and how tedious it is. It also wasted Deforestator (though maybe that was a good thing looking back. Also tying into the whole "weird outfits" thing-well, I don't think I need to explain anything where Deforestator's concerned.).

"The Petite Queen": I really don't like the "rival girls competition" plot. Never have, never will. The plot's just mediocre at best and contrived at worst, with Thresher's appearance literally being the only good part of it.

"Swapper 2.0": I feel forced to like this episode; it's plot is bad, Stitch has a beyond bizarre love of being a human and spends all his time in Takumi's (I'm NOT referring to him by his English dub name) body instead of trying to find Swapper and get himself switched back (and vice versa with Takumi). And then there's Heat, who's referred to as SPLODYHEAD and has the most uneventful and stupid fight scene in the anime's history.

"Stitch's Birthday": HATE. HHHAAAATTTEEEE. "Stitch Has A Glitch" brought me to tears and is one of my personal favorites as a sequel. This episode takes what was beautifully represented in that movie and spits on it, paints Yuna and Stitch's friendship to be the exact same as Lilo and Stitch's, and even has beyond stupid methods of creating experiments (energy from planets colliding. To clarify, said energy is the equivalent to that of trillions of nuclear explosions, which would most likely destroy an experiment than create it). In my opinion, this is the anime's worst.

"Chocolate Stitch": Weird. And kind of disturbing.

"Hunkahunka" was pretty bad, with Lilo just shirking her responsibilities of finding Hunkahunka a home for hanging out with a brainwashed Keoni. Honestly, her behavior in that ep's just terrible. Personal worst series one for me would be "Snafu"; me being partial to the captured experiments, this didn't sit well with me, especially with how the two years of insanity those experiments had to put up with was tossed out the window and twisted to Lilo and Stitch's favor. No genuine apology from either Lilo or Stitch, the experiments acting completely unlike how they actually would from said experience (and it's even more stupid since the writers made their bed with this idea of abandoning them), and the two not AT ALL appearing serious about the rescue (and in Stitch's case, doing it mostly for Angel). And to add to this, plenty of other experiments could've broken out besides Angel; if she can get out via headbutt, then WHAT was up with Hammerface? Or Tank and Thresher? It makes no sense, and to me, is just a really underwhelming finale episode.
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Elastico's Foot

Posts: 60
Wed, 8 Mar 2017 19:44:15 MST
To Jowad:

"Stitch's Revolution" is a re-imagining of the "Lilo & Stitch" franchise. The short stories I mentioned earlier would be a separate project taking place in the same canon as "Revolution."

However, I can tell you that, of the "Revolution" chapters currently published, Reuben appears in "Birth", "Selection", "Confrontation", "Disclosure", "Parley", "Reunion", and "Flame."
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Jowad

Posts: 100
Wed, 8 Mar 2017 18:44:49 MST
To Elastico's Foot:

Question, which chapter is the reuben one you were doing.
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Elastico's Foot

Posts: 60
Wed, 8 Mar 2017 10:32:21 MST
To Jowad:

I published the original draft in 2011, and since then have rewritten it twice; the third version is what's online right now. As an aspiring writer, it is critical to learn and accept the value and importance of rewriting.
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Jowad

Posts: 100
Wed, 8 Mar 2017 05:00:07 MST
To Elastico's Foot:

Deal.

Buy the way, about your Stitch's Revolution series, you it made not too long ago right, so then way does it say 2011 on it.
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Elastico's Foot

Posts: 60
Wed, 8 Mar 2017 01:00:30 MST
To Jowad:

Thank you. I'm real glad we could work that out with minimal fuss. But to answer your original question; I don't think there's anything I can do right now to promote the petition, but I'll keep it in mind in case anything changes.

To StarryBlast9:

Ooh, yeah, Jim Hawkins would be great to interact with Stitch, not only because their films came out in the same year, but also because it'd be great to see Stitch ride Jim's solar surfer. I already have an idea in mind to introduce a mass amount of Disney characters into "JLI", so any Disney character would be easy to have interact with Stitch. (Of course, any non-Disney characters are valid, too.)

As for my favorite Experiment, that would probably be Elastico (as my username may have foreshadowed). I love how his powers are used to reflect his personality, and I like the idea of an Experiment who simply loses interest in being evil and decides to become benevolent without intervention from Lilo.

Dumbest season three episodes? To name a few:

"Stitch Becomes Peter Pan": This one is just weird. I really like this idea because I love Disney crossovers. But then Neverland is just filled with arcade machines, roller coasters, and beauty salons, and the plot of everyone being mind controlled or whatever isn't really reflective of Peter Pan lore. Also, why didn't they use the traditional Disney Peter Pan design for his brief cameo?

"Hamjock Vielvonster": I really hate the anime's weird obsession with dressing up. It feels arbitrary and is never especially amusing. Also, nothing says boring plot like an incompetent villain.

"Reuben 2.0": This episode genuinely makes me angry; it's so misogynistic that it makes Princess Peach look like Carol Danvers. Going back to my disdain for the dress-up; Stitch is wearing a bowtie and overalls, Reuben is wearing a leather jacket and tight jeans, and Angel is wearing a white dress and elbow-high gloves. And Stitch and Reuben are fighting over her while she just sits in a glass dome (which the original series established she could smash open with a good headbutt) and gawks at them. Good criminey, maybe this kind of storytelling was acceptable in 1930s film serials, but in the 2010s, I would expect to have more active roles from female characters, especially a character like Angel who actually has incredible strength and other powers. (Not to mention that she saved Stitch three times in the original series, while the reverse never occurred.) Honestly, I'd probably call this the worst episode of the anime.

"Experiment-a-Palooza": So basically the point of this episode was to gather all the Experiments with lame powers, and have them fight a giant Stitch. (Japan getting their Godzilla love in there.) Just a weird episode with Experiments I'm not sure many are too interested in, although I do think it's worth mentioning this one line Pleakley says to the giant Stitch, which perfectly sums up his irritating continued presence in the franchise:
"Alright, now, stop this nonsense or we'll all bite you on the ankle! Well, maybe Yuna, won't, but I'll give you an ankle-biting you'll never forget!"

"Stitch Ahoy": Because animated Titanic things have just worked so well in the past, right? (Also, gotta love Slushy's logic; "I'll freeze all the citizens, but when I go to fight Stitch, I'll just freeze his foot." Brilliant.)

"Lilo": Need I say anything?

"Chocolate Stitch": Yeah, I...I don't know, either...


As for worst original series episodes, hard to say...Honestly, I'm not particularly keen on "Hunkahunka." My main gripe is that I don't like Keoni as a love interest for Lilo. Lilo's so peculiar and unique, and such a stale character as Keoni seems undeserving of her. I'd rather Lilo met someone as eccentric, if not more eccentric, than her (hence why I ship Lilo with Dib from "Invader ZIM."). Heck, it'd even be cool if she had a female love interest.
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StarryBlast9

Posts: 33
Tue, 7 Mar 2017 17:12:06 MST
To Elastico's Foot:

Personally I think maybe Jim Hawkins and Scroop from Treasure Planet or Milo and Kida from Atlantis: The Lost Empire would be some nice additions (and as characters Stitch meets). My own two cents though. :P

To...the entire forum I guess:

Alright, to maybe introduce some new talking points, here's a few:

Favorite experiments and why they're your faves?

For the anime, it being listed on Pan-Pizza's "Top Ten Weird Foreign Cartoon Remakes" and thoughts on that. (Also maybe dumbest Zutto/season three anime eps?)

Thoughts on the Ohana message in the franchise?


On a personal note though-I'm doing a list of the Top Ten worst series episodes, and I was wondering if I could know your personal worst ones (which episodes you had issues with, didn't hold up, etc.).
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Jowad

Posts: 100
Tue, 7 Mar 2017 16:42:03 MST
To Elastico's Foot:

I understand, it's just because I don't know what else to say about Lilo & Stitch at this point.

But if you have anything of what we can talk about for Lilo & Stitch that's different, then we can talk about it, sound good?
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Elastico's Foot

Posts: 60
Tue, 7 Mar 2017 09:06:34 MST
To Jowad:

I really don't mean to offend you, but I feel like you keep bringing things back to these petitions. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a petition to show support for a new Stitch series. I just feel like it's the only thing you'll talk about. I'd really like this forum to be a place for varied, constantly evolving discussion on a variety of Stitch-related subjects, but that's very hard to realize if you'll only talk about the petitions.
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Jowad

Posts: 100
Tue, 7 Mar 2017 05:24:50 MST
To Elastico's Foot:

Cool ideas, but that still doesn't answer my question.
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Elastico's Foot

Posts: 60
Tue, 7 Mar 2017 01:17:11 MST
I'm currently developing a mega-crossover anthology series called "Justice League Infinite." The idea is to feature, in theory, characters from all forms of storytelling, and team them up in fitting groups in a series of individual short stories.

Stitch will be one of the first characters to be introduced, debuting in a story that pits him against Zim from "Invader ZIM." He'll later appear regularly as part of a team consisting of other Disney heroes.

I'd like to get your guys' thoughts; what other characters would you like to see encounter Stitch in "Justice League Infinite?"
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Jowad

Posts: 100
Sat, 4 Mar 2017 06:25:08 MST
To Elastico's Foot:

In case you didn't get me the first time, I said would you help me promote the petitions of the Revival & DVD release of Lilo & Stitch: The Series.
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Elastico's Foot

Posts: 60
Sat, 4 Mar 2017 03:31:45 MST
To Stitchthebest36:

I'm really glad you enjoyed it. Spooky was one of my favorite characters to reimagine mainly because of how his abilities can make for really riveting interactions with the other characters.

Were there any other thoughts you had about this chapter?
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Jowad

Posts: 100
Fri, 3 Mar 2017 21:58:08 MST
To Stitchthebest36:

No, just wait for the 25 supporters do the update on that petition, don't worry, I just wait nicely for you to respond, although how's my L&S drawing request of Lilo, Stitch, Reuben & Angel going along.
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Stitchthebest36
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Posts: 721
Fri, 3 Mar 2017 20:36:23 MST
To Jowad: The L&S the series Revival Petition ONLY has 20 supporters as of my posting this see? https://www.change.org/p/the-walt-disney-company-reboot-of-lilo-stitch-the-series Do you want me to update it anyway? I thought you only wanted updates every 25 signatures??? btw I'm about to get very busy until August so please do not take it personally if I do not reply often.

To Elastico's Foot: I just read your story. I loved the scenes with Spooky. I love how he picked up language from others' memories. Very clever concept. You write the dialogue and personalities very realistically.
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Jowad

Posts: 100
Fri, 3 Mar 2017 16:45:26 MST
To Elastico's Foot:

Is there a way for you to help me promote the two petitions of both the Revival & the DVD's of Lilo & Stitch: The Series, it would be great if you help me promote the petitions just don't mention my name when you do.
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Elastico's Foot

Posts: 60
Fri, 3 Mar 2017 16:19:19 MST
Hey, everyone.

Just wanted to let you all know that I've just uploaded a new chapter of my fan story/reimagining, "Stitch's Revolution." Anyone who enjoys AngelxStitch will definitely get a lot out of this chapter. Here's a link:

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7375614/17/Stitch-s-Revolution
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Jowad

Posts: 100
Thu, 2 Mar 2017 21:26:21 MST
To Stitchthebest36:

I see, but you forgot to put in the Revival petition has as well.
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Stitchthebest36
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Posts: 721
Thu, 2 Mar 2017 21:19:10 MST
To Jowad: This should be the link to the update https://www.change.org/p/walt-disney-release-lilo-stitch-on-dvd/u/19582967 I don’t think I can edit updates so I hope you like it as is. I posted the petition to this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=972WqTjua8E&t=72s about Stitch and I think that is what pushed it to 25 supporters.
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Jowad

Posts: 100
Thu, 2 Mar 2017 17:41:33 MST
To Stitchthebest36:

Guess what, the DVD petition has now reached 25 supporters, guess it's time to do that petition update
https://www.change.org/p/walt-disney-release-lilo-stitch-on-dvd
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Stitchthebest36
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Posts: 721
Tue, 28 Feb 2017 17:56:53 MST
To Jowad: Sorry for the delay in replying. Ok then as soon as each Lilo & Stitch petition hits 25 supporters I will write an update.
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Jowad

Posts: 100
Fri, 24 Feb 2017 14:36:14 MST
To Stitchthebest36:

I Don't Know, maybe just say thanks for helping us get to 25 supporters or something like at. But title the update as We've Reached 25 Supporters!
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Stitchthebest36
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Posts: 721
Fri, 24 Feb 2017 11:24:37 MST
To Jowad: Sure. What should the L&S petition update say?

To everyone: I believe the L&S Weekend Bash starts today!
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Jowad

Posts: 100
Fri, 24 Feb 2017 04:47:54 MST
To Stitchthebest36:

Okay, actually instead of 50 supporters for a petition update how about you do a petition update every 25 supporters, both petitions are close to that number.
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Stitchthebest36
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Posts: 721
Thu, 23 Feb 2017 23:32:38 MST
To Jowad: I simply do not have time to post every link here that I post the L&S petitions to. I do NOT want to post certain links without permission either. I have to spend time promoting a new project of my own too. I'm sorry! However I can post a few links as one larger post at a later date if needed. The good news is that we got a few new signatures on each L&S petition recently.
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Jowad

Posts: 100
Mon, 20 Feb 2017 18:10:21 MST
To Stitchthebest36:

Just in case it doesn't appeared on that fanart, put the comment on some other fanart, just give me a link to it when you do.
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Stitchthebest36
*** SLS Team Leader ***
Posts: 721
Mon, 20 Feb 2017 17:38:22 MST
To Jowad: I mean I think I did post about the L&S petitions on that particular L&S fan art. The post may have been removed so I can try to re post it.
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Jowad

Posts: 100
Mon, 20 Feb 2017 13:59:02 MST
To Stitchthebest36:

I know you posted on that page I believe, but I'm just saying that this time post a comment about both petitions.
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Stitchthebest36
*** SLS Team Leader ***
Posts: 721
Mon, 20 Feb 2017 13:03:32 MST
To Jowad: Ok then. Just let me know. I have commented on that post already I think…I have been posting on L&S related things each day to try to gain supporters.
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Jowad

Posts: 100
Sat, 18 Feb 2017 18:59:25 MST
To Stitchthebest36:

I just thought about another way to promote the petitions, is it okay if you put the two petitions on a comment on the DeviantArt page 'Culture Clash': http://littletiger488.deviantart.com/art/Culture-Clash-193514565 because if a few people go this page and scroll down to the comments section, then they will see your comment about the two Lilo & Stitch: The Series petitions. So would you comment about the two petitions on that page, but don't mention my name.
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Jowad

Posts: 100
Wed, 15 Feb 2017 04:58:54 MST
To Stitchthebest36:

I Don't Know Yet but When that Time Comes I'll Tell You.
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Stitchthebest36
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Posts: 721
Tue, 14 Feb 2017 22:22:57 MST
To Jowad: I still promote the petitions to every L&S supporter I can find. Yes I can post updates on the L&S petitions. What do you want the updates to say?
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Jowad

Posts: 100
Tue, 14 Feb 2017 17:00:48 MST
To Stitchthebest36:

Have you found other ways to promote the petitions yet?

P.S. When both petitions respectively reach 50 supporters someday would you petition updates on the sites like how many other petitions on that site do.
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Stitchthebest36
*** SLS Team Leader ***
Posts: 721
Mon, 13 Feb 2017 12:10:51 MST
To Jowad: I added the review video and another good video about Lilo to the tumblr here

http://saveliloandstitch.tumblr.com/post/157199752934/a-member-of-our-ohana-shout-out-found-this-neat

http://saveliloandstitch.tumblr.com/post/157199852104/an-interesting-analysis-of-lilos-character

I agree with most of the review but I don't find Lilo & Stitch to be imbalanced between the alien and human parts like he does.

To KarolynMessina: If you want to see a series with Lilo older and Stitch having adventures with her and her daughter check out the stories at this link.

http://doverstar.deviantart.com

Doverstar writes fantastic fanfics about Lilo and her daughter Ani and in her stories her version of Ani has ADHD which makes the stories interesting.

To Starryblast9: Mahalo and no problem!
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Jowad

Posts: 100
Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:47:06 MST
To Stitchthebest36:

Guess what, Jambareeqi, the guy who preciously review Lilo & Stitch 2 a couple of years back, just reviewed the first Lilo & Stitch movie on January 31st put this on Tumblr: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpPm4GH0h0w
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